What Do You Know About Bottineau's D-1, D-2 Alignments?
On Dec. 18, the Golden Valley City Council will vote on a resolution that will move studies forward on the D-1 alignment. Learn more about the D-1 and D-2 alignments, both paths under review in the Draft Environmental Impact Study.
At a Nov. 28 public hearing, Golden Valley residents shared their heated opinions about the Bottineau Transitway and the Locally Preferred Alternative, a light rail route that would bring the train through Golden Valley.
The Draft Environmental Impact Study is currently being conducted on four alternative routes. Two route alternatives impact Golden Valley and North Minneapolis, and two routes impact the northern suburbs, including Maple Grove.
For Golden Valley residents, the D-1 path would bring the train through the city, with a stop adjacent to Theodore Wirth Park or on Golden Valley Road. The D-2 path brings the train through North Minneapolis, with stations on Plymouth Avenue and Broadway Avenue and another station near North Memorial Hospital.
But how much do you know about each proposed alignment? The information in the below table comes from Draft Environmental Impact Study 2011-2012 scoping documents.
| D-1 Alignment | D-2 Alignment | |
| Alignment length | 4.6 miles | 4.7 miles |
| Running time | 8 minutes, 27 seconds | 12 minutes, 26 seconds |
| Average speed | 32.8 miles per hour | 22.8 miles per hour |
| Number of station stops | 3 | 4 |
| Operating cost per passenger | $2.46-2.70 | $2.64-2.92 |
| Number of intersection closures | 0 | 6 |
| Business or residences lost | 0 | 127 |
Andy Snope
9:29 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I know it would be a great idea. It would be wonderful to get on the train in Golden Valley and take it to Minneapolis for a Twins game, the Mall of America or the airport. I would think folks using or visiting the Courage Center from out of town would enjoy the ability to get on the train at the airport and not have to spend $65 for cab fair. It makes the most sense to put the light rail in the same right of way as the existing railroad, there would be less disruption then cutting a new route through neighborhoods in North Minneapolis. Let's build it!
Kasia
12:17 pm on Thursday, December 6, 2012
Andy, why does the Minneapolis Building and Trades Council care where the light rail is going to be built? Won't there be more jobs no matter whether it is D-1 or D-2? Also, D-1 does cut through neighborhoods, it cuts through neighborhoods in Golden Valley, and without actually providing a service to the residents. Both alignments don't work and we need to go back to the drawing board and do it right.
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Candace Oathout
10:53 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
This proposal for LRT is an expensive project that will bisect the city, cause increased noise and lead to an irreversible change to Golden Valley. Transit oriented development increases congestion through much higher density housing. This project is an expensive non-solution to a non-existent problem. It restricts the free movement of people and limits their ability to tailor their travel conveniently.
We have an aging population that is already struggling with mobility. Why is it desirable to make it more difficult for them to age in place by limiting their travel modes to ones that are less convenient, harder to navigate and don't provide door to door service?
Kelly L
1:38 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I would entirely agree with Candace.
I am in favor of light rail, however, neither option addresses our needs.
As a transit user; a stop at GV Road with no park and ride, really? If would offer no benefit unless you could walk or get dropped off to the stop. It would benefit our major employers who employor over 11,000 people, such as Allianz LIfe, General Mills, or Honey Well unless you took the existing 14 route. There are no coffee shops nor retail stores located there. Is there space zoned for this anyway?
This $1billion project overlaps our existing transit services at the price of our taking wildlife away.
If you are opposed to the light rail, let's join together and unite.
PS the locally preferred option was voted in by 8 of the 30 voting members, none of whom have a GV affilation. This is for Target Corp.
Elaine Wynne
11:39 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
The voting choice does not contain anything I am for. I love light rail, would love to have it accessible to me in Golden Valley without driving. The "Locally approved Route" is bogus. Who locally approved it? The least expensive route is from Maple Grove. There are other places in GV to put the light rail than G1. Why are they never looked at? The reason GV responded negatively is that we feel like we are being "railroaded" (sorry, couldn't avoid the pun).
Valerie Engler
12:11 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Thanks for your comment, Elaine. Are you saying that you'd like another Golden Valley alternative?
Kasia
12:38 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
The current route options (D-1 and D-2) are both bad. Why do the outer suburbs need to ride through existing urban area into downtown, why not shuttle them in along 394 or 55? Golden Valley residents are not going to park-and-ride into downtown. And people with a choice are not going to move into homes with large lots (like in Golden Valley), with high property taxes, only to deal with noise and nuisance. The homes closest to the light rail will lose value (its just common sense), and the character of the neighborhood will change. Please visit saveminneapolisparks.wordpress.com to learn more. It doesn't have to be this way-let's find a better route.
Andrea Wiley
1:15 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
The Di alignment is much less expensive than the D2 alignment through N. Mpls with no stops through busy intersections. It also provides Golden Valley residents the opportunity to utilize it with a stop located either at Golden Valley Road or at Plymouth Road. I would use this as a great alternative to being stuck in rush hour traffic for an hour-and-a-half daily on I-94. This is an opportunity to get on board!! Sorry for the pun also.
Kelly L
1:44 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
It is my understanding that we pay an excise tax gas tax toward mass transit, although the Feds need to approve it, our taxes will increase and our property values will go down. Which option is more expensive.
Valerie Engler
2:37 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
In speaking with Joe Gladke from Hennepin County, he says that for the per-engineering phase, 50% of the funding comes from the Federal Government, 30% comes from the Counties Transit Improvement Board , 10% comes from the State of Minnesota and 10% comes from the Hennepin County Regional Railroad Authority. As I understand it, all of those entities would use tax dollars to create the light rail.
Karen Lehman
1:48 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I don't believe that either route, D1 or D2, is a good solution. Important values to both Golden Valley (natural areas) and North Minneapolis (cohesive community) are violated by one or the other. I have asked why Option 3 was taken off the table, and I haven't gotten a good answer. I do not own a car, and I use public transit. But I am not in favor of pursuing the study of the D1. The wildlife cooridor will be destroyed, and I live right on it, so I know that my property values will go down. Property values only go up in the areas adjacent to transit stations where amenities are present. Those along the line see values go down, because they get the downsides without the upsides.
If we feel that there is intense pressure from the Met Council and Hennepin County now, what will it be like once they have spent $30-$100,000,000 on the study? "Gee, we spent so much money, and this isn't a great alternative, but it's the best we've got. Green space has to go in service to regional integration." If the GV city council chooses not to go forward, that might force the county back to the drawing board to examine routes that were taken off the table. That, or the Minneapolis city council would have to work harder to find a route acceptable to North Minneapolis. I don't want to see Golden Valley and North Minneapolis pitted against one another, but that's the dynamic limitation to these two options has created. There should be a better solution for both communities.
Debra Wagner
10:28 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
I was hoping for the D2 alignment as a resident of North Minneapolis, we need the development that light rail would attract. We also need better transpotation alternatives for residents living here who could potentially find jobs along the ail line. With Park is a valuable natural asset that should not be disturbed by the rail line running through it on a regular basis. I think it would destroy it's natural beauty and tranquility.
Karen Lehman
10:43 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Debra, if there is widespread support for D2, it would be good to hear about it. I understood that people were fearful that Penn is just too narrow, that the housing loss too significant, and the potential for dividing the community too great.